1 00:00:13,019 --> 00:00:17,410 foreign 2 00:00:23,150 --> 00:00:19,849 we are back on the record the time is 3 00:00:25,609 --> 00:00:23,160 1108 this is Media two 4 00:00:27,050 --> 00:00:25,619 and it's good you've had a chance to go 5 00:00:28,609 --> 00:00:27,060 out and talk to your attorneys or 6 00:00:30,950 --> 00:00:28,619 anything you wish to change about your 7 00:00:33,069 --> 00:00:30,960 testimony so far 8 00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:33,079 I think I uh 9 00:00:40,369 --> 00:00:37,440 on the videos we were talking about the 10 00:00:43,250 --> 00:00:40,379 year was 2020 and not 2019 I think it's 11 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:43,260 what videos you're referring to 12 00:00:47,150 --> 00:00:44,760 I think we're talking about the ones 13 00:00:48,889 --> 00:00:47,160 that your clients released okay so 14 00:00:51,170 --> 00:00:48,899 you're saying the time when my clients 15 00:00:53,330 --> 00:00:51,180 after you filed the lawsuit against my 16 00:00:54,970 --> 00:00:53,340 clients my clients released a video 17 00:00:57,770 --> 00:00:54,980 online 18 00:00:59,569 --> 00:00:57,780 that you believe caused you harm and you 19 00:01:01,670 --> 00:00:59,579 believe that was 2020 right before 20 00:01:02,990 --> 00:01:01,680 Christmas not 2019 is that correct I 21 00:01:04,850 --> 00:01:03,000 believe so 22 00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:04,860 okay anything else about your testimony 23 00:01:13,130 --> 00:01:07,439 that you wish to change or ADD 24 00:01:16,130 --> 00:01:14,030 because if you remember anything else 25 00:01:17,929 --> 00:01:16,140 you you understand you're free to add it 26 00:01:20,210 --> 00:01:17,939 in now that's fine right 27 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:20,220 correct okay 28 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:22,860 before we went off the off the 29 00:01:27,890 --> 00:01:26,400 record uh we talked about a few things I 30 00:01:29,450 --> 00:01:27,900 want to make sure that I don't miss 31 00:01:32,690 --> 00:01:29,460 something 32 00:01:34,850 --> 00:01:32,700 um earlier you mentioned instead of uh 33 00:01:37,310 --> 00:01:34,860 bitching and complaining to the 34 00:01:39,410 --> 00:01:37,320 community or having things get out you 35 00:01:41,870 --> 00:01:39,420 prefer to go to someone straight to 36 00:01:44,109 --> 00:01:41,880 where the problem is instead of making 37 00:01:46,910 --> 00:01:44,119 things public is that right yes 38 00:01:49,789 --> 00:01:46,920 and uh 39 00:01:52,010 --> 00:01:49,799 so instead of using social media you 40 00:01:55,609 --> 00:01:52,020 prefer to do that in private or any 41 00:01:57,230 --> 00:01:55,619 issue resolving right yes okay uh would 42 00:02:00,530 --> 00:01:57,240 it be true to say that you've never used 43 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:00,540 social media to to talk about problems 44 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:03,119 usually after they've escalated to a 45 00:02:07,609 --> 00:02:05,040 point to where the person has come out 46 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:07,619 publicly or it came out publicly through 47 00:02:12,369 --> 00:02:09,660 their elders 48 00:02:15,050 --> 00:02:12,379 it's usually in response to 49 00:02:16,850 --> 00:02:15,060 white has occurred but I would say I 50 00:02:23,150 --> 00:02:16,860 probably have 51 00:02:26,930 --> 00:02:23,160 social media to people 52 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:26,940 such as the Ricoh cases the people that 53 00:02:31,369 --> 00:02:29,360 were gang stalking and cyber stalking us 54 00:02:33,309 --> 00:02:31,379 some of the same people that your 55 00:02:37,369 --> 00:02:33,319 clients are in contact with 56 00:02:38,930 --> 00:02:37,379 are I would sometimes respond to them in 57 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:38,940 the beginning that was 58 00:02:45,710 --> 00:02:42,720 up until uh just after the lawsuits I 59 00:02:47,150 --> 00:02:45,720 effect out of the social media 60 00:02:50,809 --> 00:02:47,160 you're not involved in social media 61 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,819 anymore I am but I don't get involved in 62 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:52,560 all of the back and forth in the 63 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:54,959 community anymore why not 64 00:03:05,869 --> 00:02:56,720 because 65 00:03:07,790 --> 00:03:05,879 the lack of Ethics in this community and 66 00:03:10,610 --> 00:03:07,800 and we're here 67 00:03:12,589 --> 00:03:10,620 directly because of it 68 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:12,599 and you believe the social media was 69 00:03:16,130 --> 00:03:14,640 part of the problem 70 00:03:18,229 --> 00:03:16,140 well 71 00:03:20,149 --> 00:03:18,239 that was the medium used as cyber stock 72 00:03:23,089 --> 00:03:20,159 and uh 73 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:23,099 uh gang stalk me yeah when you say gang 74 00:03:27,470 --> 00:03:24,720 stock and cyber stock I don't understand 75 00:03:29,690 --> 00:03:27,480 what you mean by those terms so let's 76 00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:29,700 start with cyberstalk when you say cyber 77 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:31,620 stock what does that mean to you 78 00:03:40,490 --> 00:03:37,260 being harassed through electronic medium 79 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:46,130 harassed online 80 00:03:50,570 --> 00:03:48,470 hacking people hacking you 81 00:03:53,570 --> 00:03:50,580 which has happened 82 00:04:01,070 --> 00:03:55,910 those sorts of things monitoring your 83 00:04:05,869 --> 00:04:03,289 okay anything else 84 00:04:08,809 --> 00:04:05,879 the top of my head now 85 00:04:09,530 --> 00:04:08,819 okay let's go through them in reverse 86 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:09,540 order 87 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:12,720 so you say cyber stalking as opposed to 88 00:04:17,930 --> 00:04:15,680 gang stalking cyberstalking consists of 89 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:17,940 monitoring phone 90 00:04:23,570 --> 00:04:20,880 hacking and also harassing through 91 00:04:25,790 --> 00:04:23,580 electronic mediums such as email let's 92 00:04:28,189 --> 00:04:25,800 talk about monitoring your phone when 93 00:04:29,930 --> 00:04:28,199 was the last time you were aware or 94 00:04:38,030 --> 00:04:29,940 became aware that someone was monitoring 95 00:04:44,450 --> 00:04:41,330 is the name of the cyber security 96 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:44,460 company that we hired 97 00:04:55,010 --> 00:04:53,450 and they warned me that my phone was 98 00:05:00,310 --> 00:04:55,020 being monitored 99 00:05:05,450 --> 00:05:03,050 I couldn't give you the date it's been a 100 00:05:08,770 --> 00:05:05,460 long time ago since we hired them 101 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:08,780 it was a long just approximate 2010 102 00:05:16,129 --> 00:05:13,440 2005. it would have been after 2000 103 00:05:21,170 --> 00:05:16,139 18 I believe 18 or after 104 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:21,180 so 2018 or 19. yeah 105 00:05:31,129 --> 00:05:28,430 yeah I'm trying to remember I think we 106 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:31,139 hired them a little while prior to 107 00:05:35,930 --> 00:05:34,560 follow filing the lawsuits 108 00:05:37,610 --> 00:05:35,940 when you say a little while prior 109 00:05:40,129 --> 00:05:37,620 earlier that meant four or five months 110 00:05:41,390 --> 00:05:40,139 before I don't know 111 00:05:43,490 --> 00:05:41,400 it could have been four or five months 112 00:05:45,890 --> 00:05:43,500 it could have won okay 113 00:05:48,290 --> 00:05:45,900 and what when you say we hired them 114 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:48,300 who's the we is that the 115 00:05:53,689 --> 00:05:49,919 Stacy and me 116 00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:53,699 okay so you hire them individually we 117 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:56,280 hired them through our company good 118 00:06:03,050 --> 00:06:00,000 Enterprise Solutions Inc okay so good 119 00:06:05,210 --> 00:06:03,060 Enterprise Solutions Inc retained the 120 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:05,220 services of 121 00:06:16,730 --> 00:06:10,080 uh in approximate 2018 or 19. correct 122 00:06:19,010 --> 00:06:18,409 preparing 123 00:06:27,290 --> 00:06:19,020 um 124 00:06:32,510 --> 00:06:30,650 what caused you to need to what caused 125 00:06:35,689 --> 00:06:32,520 you to believe that you needed a cyber 126 00:06:40,189 --> 00:06:35,699 security company at that time in 2018 or 127 00:06:41,930 --> 00:06:40,199 19. Jay Widener who worked for Gaia was 128 00:06:44,270 --> 00:06:41,940 heading a 129 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:44,280 cyber stalking group 130 00:06:50,510 --> 00:06:47,520 that was also trying to destroy my 131 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:50,520 reputation so that they could steal my 132 00:06:54,290 --> 00:06:52,080 intellectual property 133 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:54,300 and 134 00:07:00,050 --> 00:06:57,060 we got a shitload of proof that says 135 00:07:01,850 --> 00:07:00,060 they're a great uh organization we've 136 00:07:05,390 --> 00:07:01,860 got an amazing report 137 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:05,400 from them just on Helm and they helped 138 00:07:10,730 --> 00:07:08,880 us uncover what was going on and who was 139 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:10,740 talking to who 140 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:13,440 and helped us get enough information to 141 00:07:16,909 --> 00:07:14,400 be able 142 00:07:18,830 --> 00:07:16,919 to be brave enough to open a RICO case 143 00:07:20,270 --> 00:07:18,840 when everyone thinks it's stupid and 144 00:07:23,450 --> 00:07:20,280 gonna collapse 145 00:07:26,330 --> 00:07:23,460 we we did our due diligence 146 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:26,340 and you do your due diligence for the 147 00:07:35,809 --> 00:07:30,240 Jay Widener matter with Gaia uh was to 148 00:07:38,570 --> 00:07:35,819 have red torch investigate uh what the 149 00:07:41,689 --> 00:07:38,580 Jay Widener had done 150 00:07:44,749 --> 00:07:41,699 to you said cyberstock you 151 00:07:49,010 --> 00:07:44,759 and what what was the evidence that you 152 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:49,020 found that your phone had been monitored 153 00:07:54,290 --> 00:07:52,560 by Jay Widener that's red torch's 154 00:07:56,510 --> 00:07:54,300 information and it'll come out in that 155 00:08:01,790 --> 00:07:59,029 okay do you have any information that my 156 00:08:04,129 --> 00:08:01,800 clients have ever monitored your phone 157 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:04,139 not monitored my phone but there was 158 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:06,000 information about their behaviors yeah 159 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:09,360 before I had filed the suit who uh like 160 00:08:13,969 --> 00:08:12,000 Roger Richards was really 161 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:13,979 destroying my reputation all throughout 162 00:08:16,189 --> 00:08:15,599 the community 163 00:08:20,210 --> 00:08:16,199 um 164 00:08:22,430 --> 00:08:20,220 through his social media and they warned 165 00:08:24,969 --> 00:08:22,440 me about that but there was no warning 166 00:08:28,189 --> 00:08:24,979 that the phone monitoring was going on 167 00:08:30,170 --> 00:08:28,199 directly from your 168 00:08:34,190 --> 00:08:30,180 um clients 169 00:08:37,370 --> 00:08:34,200 there is no warning from sorry 170 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:37,380 okay ever said to you that my clients 171 00:08:41,209 --> 00:08:39,180 have monitored your phones they didn't 172 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:41,219 specifically tell me who was monitoring 173 00:08:45,889 --> 00:08:42,959 my phones but they said that my phones 174 00:08:49,090 --> 00:08:45,899 were being monitored and they knew the 175 00:08:51,889 --> 00:08:49,100 two cases that we were dealing with are 176 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:51,899 so but they weren't specific in that 177 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:54,240 when I met with them did you ask them to 178 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:55,920 be specific about who's monitoring your 179 00:08:59,990 --> 00:08:57,600 phone they said it was going to be all 180 00:09:01,550 --> 00:09:00,000 in the report this was a high level 181 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:01,560 um 182 00:09:06,590 --> 00:09:04,560 discussion have they given you a report 183 00:09:09,949 --> 00:09:06,600 we've only received the preliminary 184 00:09:12,949 --> 00:09:09,959 report uh I'm we're going to receive the 185 00:09:15,170 --> 00:09:12,959 larger report for the Gaia case at some 186 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:15,180 point and then they will testify for us 187 00:09:19,310 --> 00:09:17,100 is there a preliminary report have any 188 00:09:20,750 --> 00:09:19,320 accusations about my clients monitoring 189 00:09:22,910 --> 00:09:20,760 your phone yeah 190 00:09:24,410 --> 00:09:22,920 okay the preliminary report wasn't about 191 00:09:25,810 --> 00:09:24,420 your clients 192 00:09:30,110 --> 00:09:25,820 okay 193 00:09:31,850 --> 00:09:30,120 do you have any concerns about 194 00:09:33,650 --> 00:09:31,860 and let me go back just to make sure I'm 195 00:09:35,050 --> 00:09:33,660 understanding when you say monitoring 196 00:09:37,970 --> 00:09:35,060 phone 197 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:37,980 do you believe people are listening to 198 00:09:44,810 --> 00:09:40,500 your verbal phone conversations 199 00:09:47,870 --> 00:09:44,820 I do not know but I behave as if I'm 200 00:09:50,329 --> 00:09:47,880 being monitored in that fashion 201 00:09:52,190 --> 00:09:50,339 how long have you behaved as if your 202 00:09:55,250 --> 00:09:52,200 verbal phone conversations are always 203 00:09:58,850 --> 00:09:55,260 being monitored since uh they told me 204 00:10:03,350 --> 00:09:58,860 that I needed to be careful that my our 205 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:04,430 okay 206 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:08,640 so you don't talk you don't have any 207 00:10:13,009 --> 00:10:10,320 attorney-client conversations on the 208 00:10:15,889 --> 00:10:13,019 telephone since 2018 or 19. 209 00:10:18,590 --> 00:10:15,899 no I don't I don't talk on our uh we 210 00:10:20,329 --> 00:10:18,600 don't talk on our cell phone uh we don't 211 00:10:22,009 --> 00:10:20,339 do anything on the cell phone that we 212 00:10:24,710 --> 00:10:22,019 don't 213 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:24,720 expect might pop up somewhere where we 214 00:10:29,210 --> 00:10:26,700 have we have to be very careful but we 215 00:10:31,730 --> 00:10:29,220 do send texts and 216 00:10:33,769 --> 00:10:31,740 um expect that information to be 217 00:10:35,150 --> 00:10:33,779 privileged and if it pops up we'll know 218 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:35,160 where it came from 219 00:10:42,130 --> 00:10:39,410 you mentioned another thing you 220 00:10:46,550 --> 00:10:42,140 mentioned that you were concerned about 221 00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:46,560 hacking what was hacked into uh but 222 00:10:49,490 --> 00:10:48,120 first before I asked that question what 223 00:10:52,009 --> 00:10:49,500 what do you when you say hacking what 224 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:52,019 does that mean to you 225 00:11:04,069 --> 00:10:57,710 breaking attempting to break into 226 00:11:08,030 --> 00:11:06,470 okay what computer networks do you 227 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:08,040 maintain 228 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:12,600 or our websites and our local computer 229 00:11:17,630 --> 00:11:15,240 networks at home 230 00:11:20,210 --> 00:11:17,640 so you maintain a local computer network 231 00:11:21,650 --> 00:11:20,220 in a like is it a server that you 232 00:11:23,090 --> 00:11:21,660 maintain at home no it's just a little 233 00:11:24,530 --> 00:11:23,100 cluster 234 00:11:27,949 --> 00:11:24,540 like what you probably have at your 235 00:11:30,170 --> 00:11:27,959 house okay just a couple laptops yeah 236 00:11:35,090 --> 00:11:30,180 okay so you believe though that someone 237 00:11:36,350 --> 00:11:35,100 broke into your laptop at home or some 238 00:11:39,710 --> 00:11:36,360 of the 239 00:11:43,310 --> 00:11:39,720 um early reports that we got there was a 240 00:11:45,889 --> 00:11:43,320 person and he was working with me Roger 241 00:11:50,389 --> 00:11:45,899 Richards and I can't remember his name 242 00:11:52,690 --> 00:11:50,399 and Mike waskoski some he volunteered 243 00:11:56,090 --> 00:11:52,700 um he's a 244 00:11:58,310 --> 00:11:56,100 Electronics security professional and 245 00:12:01,490 --> 00:11:58,320 he's been monitoring everything for us 246 00:12:03,670 --> 00:12:01,500 and before the lawsuits he was 247 00:12:08,509 --> 00:12:03,680 constantly sending us uh 248 00:12:10,190 --> 00:12:08,519 reports of people trying to hack us and 249 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:10,200 that was also during the same time that 250 00:12:17,210 --> 00:12:12,860 David Wilcox website my 251 00:12:20,509 --> 00:12:17,220 associate his website was hacked 252 00:12:23,690 --> 00:12:20,519 and all that's public 253 00:12:25,190 --> 00:12:23,700 there is a real big deal public deal we 254 00:12:27,530 --> 00:12:25,200 said he he's been monitoring your 255 00:12:30,170 --> 00:12:27,540 website who's the he I can't remember 256 00:12:32,030 --> 00:12:30,180 his name he's the electronics uh 257 00:12:34,009 --> 00:12:32,040 security guy that 258 00:12:36,170 --> 00:12:34,019 I alluded to I can't remember his name 259 00:12:39,949 --> 00:12:36,180 we haven't 260 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:39,959 no he was someone that I think Roger uh 261 00:12:44,449 --> 00:12:41,760 engaged with because he was one of the 262 00:12:45,410 --> 00:12:44,459 many people that contacted us to 263 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:45,420 um 264 00:12:49,370 --> 00:12:46,980 volunteer 265 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:49,380 was law enforcement ever monitoring your 266 00:12:52,370 --> 00:12:51,600 phone to the extent you know not that I 267 00:12:54,889 --> 00:12:52,380 know of 268 00:12:57,170 --> 00:12:54,899 yeah and you had issues with the IRS a 269 00:12:58,610 --> 00:12:57,180 few years ago right 270 00:13:01,730 --> 00:12:58,620 would you ever have an audit with the 271 00:13:03,769 --> 00:13:01,740 IRS no okay no concerns with the IRS 272 00:13:04,810 --> 00:13:03,779 well I do now 273 00:13:07,310 --> 00:13:04,820 um 274 00:13:10,490 --> 00:13:07,320 with everything that happened with the 275 00:13:13,150 --> 00:13:10,500 SBA entertainment you know 276 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:13,160 Leon created a mirror company to mine 277 00:13:22,250 --> 00:13:20,569 they had me signed the paperwork to 278 00:13:23,690 --> 00:13:22,260 where it looked like the money was 279 00:13:26,269 --> 00:13:23,700 coming into my company when it was 280 00:13:29,030 --> 00:13:26,279 actually going on to Leons 281 00:13:31,670 --> 00:13:29,040 I signed All I signed the contracts and 282 00:13:33,590 --> 00:13:31,680 I signed the tax documents and both of 283 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:33,600 them tell the government and the IRS 284 00:13:37,550 --> 00:13:35,040 that I received all of that money 285 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:37,560 instead of Leon Kennedy 286 00:13:41,990 --> 00:13:39,600 will you say you were you were had to 287 00:13:44,449 --> 00:13:42,000 sign that so you you believe you signed 288 00:13:46,730 --> 00:13:44,459 that uh forcefully like Leon made you 289 00:13:48,290 --> 00:13:46,740 sign them I feel yeah I feel like it was 290 00:13:49,850 --> 00:13:48,300 some sort of conspiracy 291 00:13:52,370 --> 00:13:49,860 did you read the documents before 292 00:13:53,389 --> 00:13:52,380 assigning them well yeah did you agree 293 00:13:57,050 --> 00:13:53,399 to him 294 00:13:59,150 --> 00:13:57,060 well yeah it was a tax document so you 295 00:14:01,129 --> 00:13:59,160 didn't when you and this document that 296 00:14:02,990 --> 00:14:01,139 you say you signed uh what was it 297 00:14:06,530 --> 00:14:03,000 specifically it's 298 00:14:08,930 --> 00:14:06,540 one of those WF whatevers that you W4 I 299 00:14:10,430 --> 00:14:08,940 don't know it's uh identifying who the 300 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:10,440 taxpayer is 301 00:14:16,490 --> 00:14:13,920 said okay we have the bank account to 302 00:14:19,310 --> 00:14:16,500 send it to not my bank account 303 00:14:21,530 --> 00:14:19,320 we need to tell the government that you 304 00:14:24,170 --> 00:14:21,540 know we're sending the money okay 305 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:24,180 somewhere all they all they said was hey 306 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:28,260 Corey Leon said you need to sign this uh 307 00:14:32,329 --> 00:14:29,519 tax agreement 308 00:14:34,990 --> 00:14:32,339 and I said okay Leon's the Mr 309 00:14:37,790 --> 00:14:35,000 know-it-all whatever guy from Hollywood 310 00:14:40,790 --> 00:14:37,800 all right I was told I need to follow 311 00:14:42,290 --> 00:14:40,800 his if I want to be rich and famous and 312 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:42,300 all this other stuff I got to follow his 313 00:14:47,449 --> 00:14:43,680 every step 314 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:47,459 so yeah I signed it sent it back to 315 00:14:53,210 --> 00:14:50,880 and it wasn't until later on that I 316 00:14:55,009 --> 00:14:53,220 realized that it was completely 317 00:14:56,990 --> 00:14:55,019 different company names 318 00:14:59,629 --> 00:14:57,000 Leon knew what was going on his company 319 00:15:00,410 --> 00:14:59,639 was he gave them the 320 00:15:02,210 --> 00:15:00,420 um 321 00:15:05,629 --> 00:15:02,220 bank account information to send it to 322 00:15:07,730 --> 00:15:05,639 and had them have me do the taxes 323 00:15:11,030 --> 00:15:07,740 which makes his if you do things right 324 00:15:12,889 --> 00:15:11,040 you don't pay taxes a lot easier I guess 325 00:15:14,569 --> 00:15:12,899 but as far as the government was 326 00:15:15,290 --> 00:15:14,579 concerned I was receiving all of this 327 00:15:19,310 --> 00:15:15,300 money 328 00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:19,320 uh as far as was concerned it was going 329 00:15:24,769 --> 00:15:22,320 uh the money was going to to my company 330 00:15:26,930 --> 00:15:24,779 they didn't know that that bank account 331 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:26,940 was from a different company altogether 332 00:15:29,930 --> 00:15:28,800 because it was the same company name and 333 00:15:33,530 --> 00:15:29,940 where was 334 00:15:35,750 --> 00:15:33,540 sending uh the monies where did they 335 00:15:38,090 --> 00:15:35,760 yeah what what company was it uh the 336 00:15:39,290 --> 00:15:38,100 bank account has to be a entertainment 337 00:15:41,449 --> 00:15:39,300 or media account there's so many 338 00:15:44,509 --> 00:15:41,459 companies that have been created 339 00:15:45,470 --> 00:15:44,519 um the one that Leon created as a mirror 340 00:15:48,050 --> 00:15:45,480 to mine 341 00:15:50,329 --> 00:15:48,060 and when you say as a mirror when you 342 00:15:52,129 --> 00:15:50,339 sign that document did you notice that 343 00:15:54,110 --> 00:15:52,139 the SBA entertainment had a different 344 00:15:54,949 --> 00:15:54,120 name it's spelled exactly the same as 345 00:15:59,870 --> 00:15:54,959 mine 346 00:16:01,670 --> 00:15:59,880 exactly I was supposed to be added to 347 00:16:04,850 --> 00:16:01,680 and it's in the emails I was supposed to 348 00:16:06,710 --> 00:16:04,860 be added to that bank account 349 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:06,720 oh so you knew that is it where this 350 00:16:10,129 --> 00:16:08,160 where the money was going to that energy 351 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:10,139 yes it's going to Leon's bank account 352 00:16:14,509 --> 00:16:12,120 that I was supposed to be added to at 353 00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:14,519 some point okay so you knew of this 354 00:16:20,170 --> 00:16:17,519 entity that Leon had formed yes okay yes 355 00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:20,180 and he told me that's the way it's done 356 00:16:26,509 --> 00:16:23,459 so he created it to mirror my company 357 00:16:27,889 --> 00:16:26,519 name remember this I'm I'm the rube that 358 00:16:28,970 --> 00:16:27,899 needs his help because I can't do this 359 00:16:32,090 --> 00:16:28,980 on my own 360 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:32,100 and so he sets up his Mirror Company to 361 00:16:35,329 --> 00:16:32,880 mine 362 00:16:38,509 --> 00:16:35,339 then he has the money go to his company 363 00:16:40,009 --> 00:16:38,519 and he has the taxes forms and all of 364 00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:40,019 the liability stuff signed under my 365 00:16:44,509 --> 00:16:42,240 company okay so before that tax document 366 00:16:45,949 --> 00:16:44,519 came to you you know of the mere you 367 00:16:47,689 --> 00:16:45,959 knew of the two Mirror companies and you 368 00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:47,699 were just trusting Leon to exactly 369 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:49,920 direct things through and you knew the 370 00:16:56,449 --> 00:16:52,800 work was being done by one SBA 371 00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:56,459 entity and at the same name had a a 372 00:17:00,530 --> 00:16:58,560 different tax identification number 373 00:17:03,650 --> 00:17:00,540 where the money was going I knew that he 374 00:17:06,189 --> 00:17:03,660 had created a mirror company to mine I 375 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,199 knew he we had discussed it the company 376 00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:08,640 was based on my intellectual property 377 00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:11,600 SBA which is my trademark 378 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:15,600 he put that in his business name 379 00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:19,679 um and mirrored it exactly didn't know 380 00:17:24,049 --> 00:17:22,799 what was going on going on because the 381 00:17:26,809 --> 00:17:24,059 uh 382 00:17:28,429 --> 00:17:26,819 names are exactly the same they told me 383 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:28,439 they would never have allowed that type 384 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:30,960 of situation if they had known did you 385 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:34,740 tell Leon uh that you wanted the money 386 00:17:38,510 --> 00:17:36,480 to be at the same company that was 387 00:17:39,909 --> 00:17:38,520 paying the taxes I didn't realize until 388 00:17:43,970 --> 00:17:39,919 later on 389 00:17:46,970 --> 00:17:43,980 that the tax liability was on me I 390 00:17:49,250 --> 00:17:46,980 didn't realize the liability of the 391 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:49,260 situation at the time and when was that 392 00:17:53,630 --> 00:17:51,840 time when you signed all this during the 393 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:53,640 time when we were signing the agreements 394 00:18:01,070 --> 00:17:57,360 for the documentary with 395 00:18:06,610 --> 00:18:03,909 I believe this was for the first one in 396 00:18:09,650 --> 00:18:06,620 2017. i i 397 00:18:11,930 --> 00:18:09,660 guessing is really difficult on these 398 00:18:14,270 --> 00:18:11,940 things it all Blends together and you 399 00:18:16,130 --> 00:18:14,280 understand guessing is means you're 400 00:18:18,529 --> 00:18:16,140 saying something that you knew nothing 401 00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:18,539 about like you telling me how many 402 00:18:22,430 --> 00:18:20,700 vacations I went on last year you have 403 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:22,440 no idea that's your definition of 404 00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:24,960 guessing that's guessing estimating is 405 00:18:30,169 --> 00:18:27,480 you have some reason to know that's an 406 00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:30,179 estimate and so all today is about is 407 00:18:34,610 --> 00:18:32,400 estimates I do want your best estimate 408 00:18:36,110 --> 00:18:34,620 okay if I can't give a best estimate 409 00:18:39,409 --> 00:18:36,120 then what do I tell you you just say it 410 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:39,419 was about I don't know no you'd say if 411 00:18:43,610 --> 00:18:41,520 you ever had a reason to know for 412 00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:43,620 example uh you know you're saying 413 00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:46,320 probably around 2017. like I said at the 414 00:18:51,409 --> 00:18:48,480 beginning of today you give me a range 415 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:51,419 and say you know Mr Webb I know is 416 00:18:58,010 --> 00:18:54,840 more recent than 2016 but not so reason 417 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:58,020 is like 2019 it's older than that so you 418 00:19:01,669 --> 00:18:59,760 give me an estimate based on what you 419 00:19:05,570 --> 00:19:01,679 remember is that fair 420 00:19:07,610 --> 00:19:05,580 it is okay so when you sign these uh tax 421 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:07,620 documents to have the money go into one 422 00:19:11,930 --> 00:19:10,080 account uh even though the work was 423 00:19:22,010 --> 00:19:11,940 being done by the other Mirror Company 424 00:19:27,950 --> 00:19:24,529 I'm 425 00:19:33,169 --> 00:19:30,529 it was 2017 or 2018. I can't recall 426 00:19:38,090 --> 00:19:33,179 that's bad 427 00:19:41,289 --> 00:19:40,070 when you said I was responsible for the 428 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:41,299 taxes 429 00:19:48,890 --> 00:19:47,039 for that income right 430 00:19:50,450 --> 00:19:48,900 what do you mean you said I was 431 00:19:54,049 --> 00:19:50,460 responsible for the taxes were you 432 00:19:56,810 --> 00:19:54,059 personally being W forward for your W-2 433 00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:56,820 for the monies that was coming from from 434 00:20:01,010 --> 00:19:58,320 uh 435 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:01,020 I don't know were the monies they 436 00:20:04,250 --> 00:20:02,640 believe they were paying an entity not 437 00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:04,260 you individually right 438 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:07,380 and so that entity was was uh submitting 439 00:20:12,830 --> 00:20:10,320 taxes for those monies correct I believe 440 00:20:15,289 --> 00:20:12,840 so my accountants would have to answer 441 00:20:17,150 --> 00:20:15,299 some of this stuff or when we're 442 00:20:19,010 --> 00:20:17,160 deposing the business we would have to 443 00:20:21,169 --> 00:20:19,020 get have time to focus on that and 444 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:21,179 refresh our memory more okay were you 445 00:20:26,930 --> 00:20:24,240 the sole member or the sole owner of 446 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:26,940 that business that was from supposedly 447 00:20:30,890 --> 00:20:28,860 receiving All the Monies 448 00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:30,900 or did other people own that business 449 00:20:36,049 --> 00:20:34,080 with you I can't recall so many were 450 00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,059 created and 451 00:20:40,430 --> 00:20:37,919 um 452 00:20:42,650 --> 00:20:40,440 that on that one 453 00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:42,660 Stacy might have been on some of them I 454 00:20:49,970 --> 00:20:46,799 know Roger created all sorts of 455 00:20:52,370 --> 00:20:49,980 entities and then dissolve them and all 456 00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:52,380 sorts of things I they've kind of all 457 00:20:56,210 --> 00:20:54,360 Blended together so as you sit here 458 00:20:58,010 --> 00:20:56,220 today maybe if we put a blank in the 459 00:21:00,049 --> 00:20:58,020 transcript with a line in it you could 460 00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:00,059 write in which entity it was that was 461 00:21:04,010 --> 00:21:01,980 getting hit with all these taxes is that 462 00:21:06,890 --> 00:21:04,020 fair 463 00:21:09,169 --> 00:21:06,900 I I believe we could locate that 464 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,179 information okay thank you 465 00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:11,039 um 466 00:21:16,970 --> 00:21:13,320 so we've talked about monitoring your 467 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:16,980 phone we've talked about hacking a 468 00:21:21,710 --> 00:21:19,200 little bit but I want to know more about 469 00:21:25,010 --> 00:21:21,720 the hacking do you believe my clients 470 00:21:27,710 --> 00:21:25,020 have ever hacked first of all one of 471 00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:27,720 your laptops no the hacking that was 472 00:21:32,570 --> 00:21:29,400 being reported occurred before my 473 00:21:34,490 --> 00:21:32,580 problem legal problems with your clients 474 00:21:36,350 --> 00:21:34,500 okay that has more to do with the 475 00:21:39,169 --> 00:21:36,360 racketeering case 476 00:21:40,990 --> 00:21:39,179 okay that's the guy up case 477 00:21:44,330 --> 00:21:41,000 said yes yes 478 00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:44,340 and the hacking uh what about hacking 479 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,720 into your website you mentioned that 480 00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:47,280 your was your website hacked at one 481 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:48,080 point 482 00:21:52,430 --> 00:21:50,580 attempts were made my website was taken 483 00:21:55,490 --> 00:21:52,440 down with DOs attacks all of that sort 484 00:21:57,610 --> 00:21:55,500 of thing yes uh David Wilcox who's the 485 00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:57,620 person I work with his was actually 486 00:22:02,690 --> 00:22:01,200 hacked and things changed and done as 487 00:22:04,930 --> 00:22:02,700 well 488 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:04,940 does he maintain 489 00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:07,440 his website through WordPress or 490 00:22:11,570 --> 00:22:09,600 something else I don't know do you 491 00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,580 maintain your own website no 492 00:22:19,070 --> 00:22:13,440 who maintains your website for you other 493 00:22:26,330 --> 00:22:22,190 anyone else other than Mike wazkowski 494 00:22:30,169 --> 00:22:28,130 and Mike reported to you at one point 495 00:22:33,890 --> 00:22:30,179 that that your website had gotten hacked 496 00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:33,900 correct no he was I believe he started 497 00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:35,760 helping David with his website after 498 00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:39,360 David's was hacked he did not inform me 499 00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:41,600 I was hacked it was the 500 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:44,820 security professional guy that 501 00:22:49,610 --> 00:22:47,280 volunteered for us that was telling us 502 00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:49,620 that we were being Brute Force attacked 503 00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:52,559 and people were attempting to hack us 504 00:22:57,169 --> 00:22:55,740 okay but like I said that predated my 505 00:23:01,010 --> 00:22:57,179 case with 506 00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,020 your clients okay and then you mentioned 507 00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:03,360 also another definition of under cyber 508 00:23:07,970 --> 00:23:05,460 stock uh being harassed through 509 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,980 electronic mediums do you believe that 510 00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:09,600 any of my three clients have ever 511 00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:11,640 harassed you through electronic mediums 512 00:23:22,370 --> 00:23:14,520 yes okay what is your definition of 513 00:23:26,330 --> 00:23:25,549 it's such a simple word 514 00:23:28,250 --> 00:23:26,340 um 515 00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:28,260 what does it mean to you causing 516 00:23:36,049 --> 00:23:30,000 psychological 517 00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:37,190 pain 518 00:23:41,390 --> 00:23:38,520 in people 519 00:23:42,649 --> 00:23:41,400 affecting them negatively from afar if 520 00:23:49,850 --> 00:23:42,659 you can't go and slap them in the face 521 00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:52,789 okay and so you believe that the emails 522 00:24:02,350 --> 00:23:55,980 from my client were intentionally trying 523 00:24:07,549 --> 00:24:05,990 you said social media okay let me first 524 00:24:09,289 --> 00:24:07,559 stick with emails and then we'll get to 525 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:09,299 social media do you believe there's ever 526 00:24:13,070 --> 00:24:11,460 been an email from one of my clients 527 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,080 where they sent it to you with the 528 00:24:19,070 --> 00:24:15,120 intention of causing psychological 529 00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:19,080 intimidation and pain yes okay uh how 530 00:24:24,649 --> 00:24:20,760 many emails do you believe were sent 531 00:24:27,289 --> 00:24:24,659 with that intention uh dozens but two 532 00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:27,299 were sent with the absolute malice and 533 00:24:33,409 --> 00:24:29,039 intent to cause 534 00:24:35,630 --> 00:24:33,419 it obviously okay when you say two 535 00:24:37,870 --> 00:24:35,640 percent with the intention of causing 536 00:24:40,190 --> 00:24:37,880 pain obviously 537 00:24:42,669 --> 00:24:40,200 what two are those it sounds like you 538 00:24:48,049 --> 00:24:42,679 remember them yes never forget them 539 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:48,059 Roger Richards uh sent uh 540 00:24:53,390 --> 00:24:50,640 resignation letter 541 00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:53,400 yeah in in it giving up all rights to 542 00:24:57,310 --> 00:24:55,200 everything he's ever worked on with me 543 00:24:59,930 --> 00:24:57,320 by the way 544 00:25:02,029 --> 00:24:59,940 accusing me of all sorts of things being 545 00:25:03,649 --> 00:25:02,039 a terrible father accusing me of being a 546 00:25:06,110 --> 00:25:03,659 drunk and all this other stuff the same 547 00:25:08,029 --> 00:25:06,120 things he accused his old partner of 548 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:08,039 being with when he came 549 00:25:16,190 --> 00:25:14,690 okay if someone accused me of being 550 00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:16,200 drunk I'd kind of laugh because I'm not 551 00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:18,240 I don't drink much well you're not a 552 00:25:23,450 --> 00:25:20,220 figure in the spiritual Community I 553 00:25:25,010 --> 00:25:23,460 understand so but did it did the 554 00:25:28,669 --> 00:25:25,020 accusation of a drunk did it have any 555 00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:28,679 traction with you no okay no it was the 556 00:25:35,649 --> 00:25:33,600 intent uh you when that we go over the 557 00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:35,659 letter at some point 558 00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:38,460 it'll be very obvious the intent was to 559 00:25:44,690 --> 00:25:42,720 cause extreme upset and harm the 18-page 560 00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:44,700 extortion letter on the other hand well 561 00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,260 let's stick with the first letter did 562 00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:48,480 that first one where he said hey I want 563 00:25:53,149 --> 00:25:51,360 to resign give up all my rights you're a 564 00:25:55,130 --> 00:25:53,159 terrible father you're just a bunch of 565 00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:55,140 insults a bunch of insults did that 566 00:25:59,630 --> 00:25:57,000 cause you harm 567 00:26:01,130 --> 00:25:59,640 said yes yes it caused my whole family a 568 00:26:03,310 --> 00:26:01,140 lot of harm 569 00:26:06,850 --> 00:26:03,320 um did he had been a problem for a while 570 00:26:11,330 --> 00:26:06,860 he was resigning in this crazy fashion 571 00:26:14,510 --> 00:26:11,340 and immediately I I went to Leon and uh 572 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:14,520 Leon didn't want him to quit and and 573 00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:17,460 pretty much forced Roger back into the 574 00:26:23,390 --> 00:26:20,460 situation and all of that Rogers 575 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,400 resignation letter was pretty much the 576 00:26:29,930 --> 00:26:25,760 beginning of the end of all of this 577 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:29,940 and Leon you know Roger's a Workhorse 578 00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:31,260 you got to take advantage of that you 579 00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:33,240 know you gotta you gotta you don't find 580 00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:35,039 workhorses like this 581 00:26:40,190 --> 00:26:37,500 and 582 00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:40,200 found ways to bring Roger back in you 583 00:26:45,529 --> 00:26:43,320 will see in emails there's uh agreements 584 00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:45,539 that Roger wouldn't do anything 585 00:26:50,450 --> 00:26:47,700 basically until he finished the graphic 586 00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:50,460 novel which he promised to do because 587 00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:54,720 the money went to do his uh or his I he 588 00:27:02,570 --> 00:26:58,799 wanted this to go to the to do this idea 589 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:02,580 he had to do a documentary and then 590 00:27:10,190 --> 00:27:06,480 approached us and they we decided to 591 00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:10,200 base a documentary off of my IP and at 592 00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:11,700 that point I said okay if we're going to 593 00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:13,100 base it off of my AP 594 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:15,960 I'll let you use this money but it has 595 00:27:20,110 --> 00:27:17,340 to be paid back and we have to finish 596 00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:20,120 the graphic novel he agreed 597 00:27:25,970 --> 00:27:23,460 and then after the resignation letter 598 00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:25,980 I told Leon when Leon was shoving down 599 00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:28,799 my throat that he had to finish the 600 00:27:34,190 --> 00:27:31,140 graphic novel first 601 00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:34,200 that Richards needed to finish it yeah 602 00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:36,299 uh that Richards needed to you know 603 00:27:39,649 --> 00:27:37,860 finish that graphic novel and get it out 604 00:27:41,210 --> 00:27:39,659 to the customers 605 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:41,220 um 606 00:27:46,190 --> 00:27:43,320 he responded by calling me and begging 607 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,200 me to give up doing the graphic novel 608 00:27:51,890 --> 00:27:49,200 who's he sorry Roger who called me and 609 00:27:53,690 --> 00:27:51,900 said I've always wanted to do movies I 610 00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:53,700 just want to do movies I don't want to 611 00:27:59,210 --> 00:27:56,000 do this graphic novel please give it up 612 00:28:00,890 --> 00:27:59,220 the customers will or the public will 613 00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:00,900 forgive you okay I want to go back to 614 00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:02,880 something you said earlier at the 615 00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:04,020 beginning of the statement because I'm 616 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,700 concerned I I'd like to know more about 617 00:28:10,370 --> 00:28:07,679 the harassment and the intentional cause 618 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:10,380 of like a psychological intimidation and 619 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:11,700 pain 620 00:28:15,649 --> 00:28:13,919 um uh and you mentioned that two 621 00:28:17,330 --> 00:28:15,659 specifically you remember two emails 622 00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:17,340 were sent with malice and the first one 623 00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:20,640 is this Roger Richards resignation 624 00:28:24,350 --> 00:28:22,500 giving up his rights calling you a drunk 625 00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:24,360 saying you're a terrible father 626 00:28:28,970 --> 00:28:26,279 and you said your entire family was hurt 627 00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:28,980 by this did he give a copy of that 628 00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:31,500 letter to your your children to my wife 629 00:28:37,490 --> 00:28:33,419 okay but you said your entire family 630 00:28:39,649 --> 00:28:37,500 yeah my well my there if there's going 631 00:28:42,890 --> 00:28:39,659 to be turmoil in the house it's going to 632 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,900 affect the children especially after my 633 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:44,640 daughter had become acquainted with his 634 00:28:49,010 --> 00:28:45,600 daughter 635 00:28:50,750 --> 00:28:49,020 it every all these people got to know 636 00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:50,760 each other very very well they were 637 00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,340 staying in my house my family my kids 638 00:28:57,710 --> 00:28:55,679 they got to know these people you know 639 00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:57,720 very closely at the time this letter 640 00:29:03,890 --> 00:29:00,720 saying hey I'm resigning uh was sent 641 00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,900 were was Roger Richards and any of his 642 00:29:08,570 --> 00:29:05,279 family staying with you at the time 643 00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:08,580 Roger Richards are his family I'm sorry 644 00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:11,700 yeah Roger Richards when this email was 645 00:29:15,230 --> 00:29:13,260 sent saying hey I resign you're a 646 00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:15,240 terrible father you're a drunk when he 647 00:29:21,649 --> 00:29:18,480 sent this email was he staying with you 648 00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:21,659 no okay 649 00:29:27,950 --> 00:29:23,520 did he ever stay with you after that 650 00:29:32,930 --> 00:29:30,110 it seems like maybe once or twice I 651 00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:32,940 can't remember so so the relationship 652 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,760 was was reconciled enough that he stayed 653 00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:37,200 with you one more time 654 00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:39,000 yeah it's pretty much he was shoved down 655 00:29:43,610 --> 00:29:41,340 my throat all the time and I had really 656 00:29:47,090 --> 00:29:43,620 no say even though I was supposed to be 657 00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:47,100 the boss Leon kept bringing him back in 658 00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:49,500 bringing him back in Leon would agree I 659 00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,720 would say Leon if you're going to force 660 00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:54,000 Roger into the situation he needs to he 661 00:29:58,190 --> 00:29:56,700 Roger always started projects and then 662 00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:58,200 he got passionate about something else 663 00:30:01,070 --> 00:29:59,520 and something else and he left all this 664 00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:01,080 stuff undone that's what a lot of these 665 00:30:06,169 --> 00:30:03,779 businesses he created are about 666 00:30:07,789 --> 00:30:06,179 so did you tell Leon no I'm not going to 667 00:30:09,169 --> 00:30:07,799 work with this guy anymore totally on I 668 00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:09,179 did not want to work with him anymore 669 00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:11,340 and he kept on pressing it and pressing 670 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,480 it 671 00:30:18,289 --> 00:30:14,880 um I and agree and saying well what if 672 00:30:20,210 --> 00:30:18,299 he agrees to do this agrees to do the 673 00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:20,220 graphic novel first like you want 674 00:30:24,409 --> 00:30:22,860 and I'm like okay I send a long email 675 00:30:26,690 --> 00:30:24,419 saying if he does one two three four 676 00:30:28,909 --> 00:30:26,700 five six seven he can slowly start 677 00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:28,919 working back in as he gets my trust back 678 00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:31,140 okay so you sent an email saying as as 679 00:30:34,730 --> 00:30:32,520 long as he starts complying with these 680 00:30:36,769 --> 00:30:34,740 seven things he can start from the money 681 00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:36,779 what number I don't know if the seven 682 00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:39,600 right seven are proximately so you send 683 00:30:44,029 --> 00:30:40,799 an email saying he can come back into 684 00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:44,039 the fold if he does the seven or eight 685 00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:47,039 or six things right yes I said he he he 686 00:30:53,090 --> 00:30:50,159 could slowly earn my trust back in if 687 00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:53,100 Leon was going to insist which he did 688 00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:58,799 okay and basically you know said uh 689 00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,440 I can't do this without Roger I need 690 00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,080 Roger and they were they were like 691 00:31:07,850 --> 00:31:06,240 freaking Frack wasn't there an incident 692 00:31:09,649 --> 00:31:07,860 though the conscious life Expo where 693 00:31:12,590 --> 00:31:09,659 you're pretty inebriated and you're in a 694 00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:12,600 car yelling and whatnot objection no no 695 00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:18,529 okay 696 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:20,159 um I did not get inebriated at these 697 00:31:24,830 --> 00:31:22,320 events everyone else certainly did okay 698 00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:24,840 or maybe just under the influence of 699 00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:26,100 something 700 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:28,320 I never yelled anything out of a car 701 00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:29,760 okay I don't know what you're talking 702 00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:31,260 about okay 703 00:31:36,049 --> 00:31:33,260 um 704 00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:36,059 and do you believe that your persona 705 00:31:44,930 --> 00:31:41,039 affects uh the efforts of what's going 706 00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:44,940 on for the group like you're you're 707 00:31:50,269 --> 00:31:48,240 reputation is important to to the 708 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:50,279 efforts that are going on would you 709 00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:51,840 agree to that 710 00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:53,760 well obviously that's why they try to 711 00:31:57,230 --> 00:31:56,100 destroy it on the way out 712 00:31:59,210 --> 00:31:57,240 okay 713 00:32:01,070 --> 00:31:59,220 Yeah you mentioned there was two emails 714 00:32:03,230 --> 00:32:01,080 there's one about the drunk and the 715 00:32:04,850 --> 00:32:03,240 terrible father email where Roger which 716 00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:04,860 was trying to resign 717 00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:07,260 and he did resign I accepted his 718 00:32:11,690 --> 00:32:09,600 resignation but he was brought back 719 00:32:13,549 --> 00:32:11,700 okay brought back with your permission 720 00:32:16,130 --> 00:32:13,559 right with your seven you're 721 00:32:20,810 --> 00:32:16,140 approximately seven list of provisos 722 00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:20,820 that not one of was ever done but the 723 00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:22,559 thing was is always after you brought 724 00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:25,620 him back yeah the the big joke was 725 00:32:32,210 --> 00:32:28,320 um I would tell Leon and Roger stop 726 00:32:33,649 --> 00:32:32,220 managing me I'm the CEO I'm I decide how 727 00:32:35,389 --> 00:32:33,659 this is supposed to happen y'all just 728 00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:35,399 y'all told me it would that's the way it 729 00:32:39,889 --> 00:32:38,340 would be from the beginning and you tell 730 00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:39,899 me yes score yes Corey you're the boss 731 00:32:43,490 --> 00:32:41,580 team Corey team Corey and then you go 732 00:32:46,010 --> 00:32:43,500 and do whatever you want and other 733 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:46,020 people started asking them uh why they 734 00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:47,279 were doing that because it was so 735 00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:49,200 obvious and they kept telling well Corey 736 00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:50,580 has to be managed he doesn't know what 737 00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:52,740 he's doing 738 00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,919 so did you believe you needed some other 739 00:32:59,149 --> 00:32:57,600 managers to help you with your efforts 740 00:33:00,769 --> 00:32:59,159 well they had convinced me that I 741 00:33:02,269 --> 00:33:00,779 couldn't do anything without them they 742 00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:02,279 had convinced they had at one point 743 00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:04,620 convinced me that there was nothing in 744 00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:05,940 the entertainment industry that I could 745 00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:09,120 do without their assistance which was 746 00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:10,980 everything that's going on now was 747 00:33:15,130 --> 00:33:13,200 obviously not right sure did you believe 748 00:33:18,889 --> 00:33:15,140 you needed any assistance well of course 749 00:33:20,769 --> 00:33:18,899 my motto was if you don't know something 750 00:33:22,909 --> 00:33:20,779 if someone 751 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,919 convinces you that they're an expert in 752 00:33:26,930 --> 00:33:24,960 it bring them in and trust them and 753 00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:26,940 Roger convinced me he was an expert in 754 00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,140 businesses 755 00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:30,480 uh Leon convinced me that he was an 756 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,159 expert in the entertainment industry and 757 00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:34,320 contracts and that I'd needed nothing 758 00:33:37,789 --> 00:33:36,240 else except for these two to get to the 759 00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,799 promised land because they had they did 760 00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,600 admittedly have some experience that you 761 00:33:42,769 --> 00:33:41,580 did not have they did yeah right just 762 00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,779 like everyone in this room has 763 00:33:45,409 --> 00:33:44,159 experience that other people don't have 764 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:45,419 they otherwise wouldn't have been able 765 00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:46,860 to convince me that they were experts 766 00:33:49,850 --> 00:33:48,120 which they are not 767 00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:49,860 okay but they have more experience than 768 00:33:53,389 --> 00:33:51,240 some things that you didn't and that's 769 00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,399 why you hired them right that's why yeah 770 00:33:57,529 --> 00:33:55,200 they convinced me well they they 771 00:33:59,810 --> 00:33:57,539 convinced me that they were experts that 772 00:34:02,870 --> 00:33:59,820 they were uh 773 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:02,880 seasoned experts in creating businesses 774 00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:06,240 managing businesses on Roger's end and 775 00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,860 uh 776 00:34:11,690 --> 00:34:09,839 Leon claimed to be every freaking thing 777 00:34:13,609 --> 00:34:11,700 that ever occurred in 778 00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:13,619 Hollywood everything from a script 779 00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:18,060 doctor expert a contracts experts which 780 00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:19,560 he 781 00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:22,260 failed dismally on his first opportunity 782 00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:23,339 with us 783 00:34:29,690 --> 00:34:27,179 with 1091 you know having the two movies 784 00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:29,700 combined together instead of being 785 00:34:34,849 --> 00:34:31,800 separate 786 00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:34,859 so Leon's he you brought him on for his 787 00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:38,480 knowledge about contracts suppose 788 00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:42,560 why else did you bring on Leon 789 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:46,260 because he convinced me that he was so 790 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:48,720 connected and had so much knowledge in 791 00:34:54,829 --> 00:34:52,399 Hollywood that we would very quickly 792 00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:54,839 have my IP 793 00:35:01,550 --> 00:34:58,320 out and published okay so contracts 794 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:01,560 scripts connections any other reason why 795 00:35:14,089 --> 00:35:09,770 um that's all I can think of at the 796 00:35:17,089 --> 00:35:14,099 moment okay and um Roger Richards uh was 797 00:35:19,490 --> 00:35:17,099 formed created llc's and sometimes you 798 00:35:22,910 --> 00:35:19,500 would uh you or Stacy would request that 799 00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:22,920 he would form those llc's right he came 800 00:35:28,130 --> 00:35:26,040 he would come to us with these just 801 00:35:30,050 --> 00:35:28,140 you'll hear him on some of these calls 802 00:35:32,569 --> 00:35:30,060 it's just this 803 00:35:36,589 --> 00:35:32,579 diary of the mouth explosion of I of 804 00:35:37,210 --> 00:35:36,599 these ideas that of creating companies 805 00:35:40,910 --> 00:35:37,220 um 806 00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:40,920 to do our work through did you did you 807 00:35:45,069 --> 00:35:42,420 agree with any of these ideas some of 808 00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:45,079 them yes yeah some of them we didn't 809 00:35:50,089 --> 00:35:47,460 sometimes I would he would already have 810 00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:50,099 filed the uh 811 00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:53,040 LLC and you say oh I I already started 812 00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:54,480 filing the LLC I'll dissolve it I'll 813 00:35:59,329 --> 00:35:56,700 dissolve it you know he was just 814 00:36:01,069 --> 00:35:59,339 firing off so if he created something 815 00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:01,079 you didn't want it you would tell him to 816 00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:04,320 dissolve it and he would yeah or I or I 817 00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:06,740 wouldn't most of the time I wouldn't 818 00:36:12,109 --> 00:36:10,200 sign the incorporation documents or any 819 00:36:14,569 --> 00:36:12,119 documents I wasn't going to sign 820 00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:14,579 anything until we had like contracts to 821 00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:18,060 manage it okay ass backwards when when 822 00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,440 you say you wouldn't sign the 823 00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,359 incorporation documents until you had a 824 00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:23,280 contract and manage it what do you mean 825 00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:25,380 by contract to manage it 826 00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:27,680 um a contract agreement from an attorney 827 00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:31,320 that says this IP is protected in this 828 00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:35,760 way this person is entitled to this 829 00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:37,500 as long as it's part of Industry 830 00:36:41,210 --> 00:36:39,480 standard that's one of the things I 831 00:36:42,410 --> 00:36:41,220 always told these guys I want to do 832 00:36:44,329 --> 00:36:42,420 everything according to Industry 833 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:44,339 standard and they always came back to me 834 00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:46,260 with like the Leon or the Roger standard 835 00:36:52,430 --> 00:36:49,520 you know like you know with Leon uh 836 00:36:55,609 --> 00:36:52,440 being an agent to David instead of 837 00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:55,619 charging the 10 he charged the 20 and 838 00:37:00,290 --> 00:36:58,320 David thought no David didn't know and 839 00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,300 Leon's not even registered in California 840 00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,480 to be an agent 841 00:37:07,609 --> 00:37:04,640 and 842 00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:07,619 I mean so would you always make sure I 843 00:37:10,609 --> 00:37:08,640 want to go back to somebody you said 844 00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:10,619 earlier would you always make sure you 845 00:37:14,210 --> 00:37:12,480 said that the contract agreement was 846 00:37:16,970 --> 00:37:14,220 industry standard that your IQ is 847 00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:16,980 protected in that way you'd always make 848 00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:18,660 sure that was in place before you signed 849 00:37:25,130 --> 00:37:21,300 on incorporation docs before I would 850 00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:25,140 sign uh these documents that he was 851 00:37:29,870 --> 00:37:27,599 sending to the state Roger was sending 852 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:29,880 to the state if you pull those up you'll 853 00:37:34,849 --> 00:37:32,460 see there's no signatures on them 854 00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:34,859 um he was filing those and I he would 855 00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:36,540 ask me to sign things and I said I'm not 856 00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:38,040 going to sign things until we've run 857 00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:39,839 everything through an attorney these are 858 00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:42,420 all just ideas at this point they're not 859 00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,040 they're not like agreements like I'm 860 00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:46,079 going to give you this and the these are 861 00:37:51,170 --> 00:37:48,839 all Pie in the Sky ideas of his that 862 00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:51,180 almost never came into fruition and so 863 00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:52,380 you said what is it that you wouldn't 864 00:37:57,890 --> 00:37:55,680 sign until you had that IP protected in 865 00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:57,900 the way you thought it should be 866 00:38:02,810 --> 00:38:00,720 so you call it a contract agreement well 867 00:38:03,609 --> 00:38:02,820 I wouldn't I wouldn't sign 868 00:38:08,089 --> 00:38:03,619 um 869 00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:08,099 incorporating or forming the corporation 870 00:38:11,870 --> 00:38:10,020 so if you sign the document to 871 00:38:13,790 --> 00:38:11,880 incorporate the business that meant that 872 00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:13,800 you'd already had some kind of a 873 00:38:17,210 --> 00:38:15,300 contract to protect your intellectual 874 00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:17,220 not in every case I could not get 875 00:38:20,690 --> 00:38:19,380 contracts from these people okay so 876 00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,700 sometimes you would incorporate 877 00:38:25,069 --> 00:38:22,800 companies even without an agreement 878 00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:25,079 really had no choice you know I mean it 879 00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:27,900 was like move forward and have 880 00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:30,960 you know a project move forward or it 881 00:38:35,390 --> 00:38:33,359 was all the these this weird ethics that 882 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:35,400 this this group has didn't you have a 883 00:38:38,569 --> 00:38:36,720 choice though to say I'm not signing 884 00:38:42,109 --> 00:38:38,579 that incorporation document unless I 885 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:42,119 have the I the my IP protected in a 886 00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:44,040 contracted way there were a number of 887 00:38:50,089 --> 00:38:47,359 times I wouldn't sign documents until 888 00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:50,099 the IEP was protected but that was 889 00:38:56,810 --> 00:38:54,720 before Leon came in as the expert and 890 00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,820 convinced me that he was an expert in 891 00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,280 contracts and all this other stuff he 892 00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:01,680 looked over and had me sign different 893 00:39:10,270 --> 00:39:05,220 agreements for the pitch with STX he had 894 00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:10,280 me sign you know stuff with 1091 as 895 00:39:16,849 --> 00:39:13,920 the um expert I would say do we need to 896 00:39:19,730 --> 00:39:16,859 send this to uh attorneys this this this 897 00:39:23,329 --> 00:39:19,740 Corey I've been doing this for 50 years 898 00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:23,339 I know these contracts in my sleep you 899 00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:26,040 are protected don't worry and so 900 00:39:30,829 --> 00:39:28,440 sometimes before the answer sometimes 901 00:39:32,569 --> 00:39:30,839 before Leon Kennedy came on board you 902 00:39:34,490 --> 00:39:32,579 would do it that way but after Leon 903 00:39:36,349 --> 00:39:34,500 Kennedy came on board it happened a lot 904 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,359 more that you would be signing the 905 00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:38,160 incorporation documents to form a 906 00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:40,260 corporation without the protection of 907 00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:42,900 your IP objection I'm not I'm talking 908 00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:46,200 about in general signing papers that uh 909 00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:48,300 and and the papers that I mentioned had 910 00:39:52,490 --> 00:39:49,260 nothing to do with what you just 911 00:39:56,750 --> 00:39:52,500 mentioned okay uh the paper the 912 00:39:58,970 --> 00:39:56,760 contracts that Leon had me sign yes uh 913 00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:58,980 were not what you just said what were 914 00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:01,920 they I don't want sure you do and so I I 915 00:40:06,349 --> 00:40:04,320 perhaps I misunderstood earlier you said 916 00:40:08,450 --> 00:40:06,359 that sometime before Leon came on board 917 00:40:10,670 --> 00:40:08,460 you you'd allow things to go through 918 00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:10,680 without being papered up for your to 919 00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:13,680 protect your IP right things were after 920 00:40:19,150 --> 00:40:16,260 Leon came on board let's do before Leon 921 00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,160 okay Beyond before Leon came on board 922 00:40:25,010 --> 00:40:21,599 I as you'll see in every email with 923 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:25,020 Roger I wanted everything papered up and 924 00:40:27,710 --> 00:40:26,640 done by industry standards and you 925 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:27,720 always did that 926 00:40:36,589 --> 00:40:33,839 but that was my demand what very what 927 00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:36,599 what happened always was is that 928 00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:38,700 I would make demands I would say this 929 00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:41,460 every this before Leon came to Roger 930 00:40:46,490 --> 00:40:43,140 would say oh yes yes you know whatever 931 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,500 you want and then things kind of just 932 00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:49,200 went along Roger's way so you didn't 933 00:40:53,810 --> 00:40:52,260 insure before Leon came on board you 934 00:40:57,849 --> 00:40:53,820 didn't ensure that there was always 935 00:41:01,790 --> 00:40:57,859 something to protect your IP objection 936 00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:01,800 I'm I'm not sure I think I was after the 937 00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:05,480 Gaia situation and after I obtained 938 00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:08,880 attorneys from that point forward I ran 939 00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:10,680 stuff through my attorneys except for 940 00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:13,320 when Leon took over and became the 941 00:41:16,010 --> 00:41:14,940 gatekeeper and said everything had to go 942 00:41:17,950 --> 00:41:16,020 through him 943 00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:17,960 and then at that point 944 00:41:21,650 --> 00:41:20,400 attorneys kind of dropped out of the 945 00:41:24,290 --> 00:41:21,660 picture 946 00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:24,300 so as did accountants and everything 947 00:41:29,630 --> 00:41:26,700 legal 948 00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,640 and okay so there was a time when you 949 00:41:32,690 --> 00:41:30,960 see you feel like you were not 950 00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:32,700 represented by attorneys until some of 951 00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:34,140 the lawsuits started kicking in right 952 00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,820 until some of the problems started 953 00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:38,160 happening and then I saw I needed to 954 00:41:43,609 --> 00:41:40,500 protect my trademark I need to create 955 00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:43,619 trademarks to protect my IP from Gaia 956 00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:46,800 who was stealing it to protect from Gaia 957 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:49,380 what what year was it that the that that 958 00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:51,060 came along and you realize you wanted to 959 00:41:54,050 --> 00:41:52,680 protect it from Gaia that was stealing 960 00:41:58,130 --> 00:41:54,060 it 961 00:42:01,910 --> 00:41:58,140 like 2017 or 16 I can't recall 962 00:42:03,290 --> 00:42:01,920 so 2017 or 2016 you realized hey guy is 963 00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:03,300 stealing it I need to get some attorneys 964 00:42:07,730 --> 00:42:05,880 to protect my my interest I need to file 965 00:42:09,170 --> 00:42:07,740 trademarks 966 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,180 okay so that's when you begin to file 967 00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:12,000 trademarks is that correct yes 2017 or 968 00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:12,960 16. 969 00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:15,420 that's when we started I started seeking 970 00:42:21,890 --> 00:42:18,480 out attorneys and 971 00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:21,900 thinking of ways to protect the IP and 972 00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:22,920 then 973 00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:26,520 of course Valerie came along to help 974 00:42:32,569 --> 00:42:30,720 trademark okay and so in 2017 or 16 you 975 00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:32,579 began to seek out attorneys to protect 976 00:42:37,849 --> 00:42:36,060 your IP and so from then till now you've 977 00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:37,859 been good about papering things up to 978 00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:39,660 protect your IP objection 979 00:42:43,730 --> 00:42:42,060 for the most part except for when Leon 980 00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:43,740 was in control 981 00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,619 when you say control he didn't sign any 982 00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:51,599 incorporation documents for you did he 983 00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:54,060 what do you mean did he sign a formation 984 00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:55,859 of a corporation document and you're 985 00:43:00,109 --> 00:42:57,540 stead that you know of 986 00:43:01,849 --> 00:43:00,119 I still don't understand sure you 987 00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:01,859 mentioned your control the way you 988 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,420 controlled things was you wouldn't sign 989 00:43:07,970 --> 00:43:05,760 a corporation document an incorporation 990 00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:07,980 document to form a corporation until you 991 00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:10,560 had your IP protection your contract in 992 00:43:14,569 --> 00:43:11,940 place right 993 00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:14,579 I said that was what 994 00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:16,440 I demanded 995 00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:21,839 what I was manipulated into doing were 996 00:43:25,550 --> 00:43:23,880 always two different things why would 997 00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:25,560 you just say I'm not going to sign that 998 00:43:29,089 --> 00:43:27,180 because I'm going to stick with what I 999 00:43:31,970 --> 00:43:29,099 demanded spend a little time with Leon 1000 00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:31,980 Kennedy but answer my question what he 1001 00:43:37,069 --> 00:43:35,280 had manipulated me and totally convinced 1002 00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:37,079 me that I couldn't do any of this stuff 1003 00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:40,380 without him and that he knew all of the 1004 00:43:44,990 --> 00:43:43,319 legal ways to handle stuff all of the 1005 00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,000 industry standard ways of handling stuff 1006 00:43:49,609 --> 00:43:48,000 and he would do it but you knew before 1007 00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:49,619 that you'd done it without him right 1008 00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:51,839 done what all this all this 1009 00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:54,180 incorporation protecting your IP before 1010 00:43:58,849 --> 00:43:56,760 you open you're talking corporations I'm 1011 00:44:00,410 --> 00:43:58,859 talking the business right so for the 1012 00:44:02,569 --> 00:44:00,420 business you understood how to protect 1013 00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:02,579 yourself before Leon came on board I'm 1014 00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:05,520 talking I'm I'm what I'm saying is that 1015 00:44:10,370 --> 00:44:08,160 I had ideas about how to protect myself 1016 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,380 and with things going the way they were 1017 00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:12,960 at Gaia I was definitely wanting to 1018 00:44:19,309 --> 00:44:15,960 protect myself in this community the way 1019 00:44:21,710 --> 00:44:19,319 people are Leon Kennedy came in not from 1020 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:21,720 this community from Hollywood 1021 00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:26,640 50 years in Hollywood he came in and 1022 00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:29,880 convinced me and manipulated me into 1023 00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:32,880 allowing him to take the reins to be the 1024 00:44:37,609 --> 00:44:35,280 gatekeeper while the whole time calling 1025 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:37,619 it team Corey but 1026 00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:41,760 quietly having them work on all these 1027 00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,500 other projects and Pitch other things 1028 00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,119 and all of these things 1029 00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:46,800 when 1030 00:44:50,170 --> 00:44:48,900 and and telling them not to tell Corey 1031 00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:50,180 you know it was just a constant 1032 00:44:57,290 --> 00:44:54,660 manipulation and it it started to affect 1033 00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:57,300 you know the team with 1034 00:45:02,990 --> 00:45:00,300 they didn't trust Leon anymore they 1035 00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:03,000 after a few things with Leon they 1036 00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:04,260 approached me quietly and they said 1037 00:45:07,130 --> 00:45:05,280 Corey 1038 00:45:08,990 --> 00:45:07,140 I don't know the relationship with you 1039 00:45:11,329 --> 00:45:09,000 Leon and Roger but 1040 00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:11,339 we are very nervous we've seen a lot of 1041 00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:14,400 red flags we're going to take the 1042 00:45:20,270 --> 00:45:18,359 treatment that we wrote for uh the the 1043 00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:20,280 movie idea and we're going to register 1044 00:45:26,030 --> 00:45:23,160 it with the 1045 00:45:28,849 --> 00:45:26,040 and they went and did that registered 1046 00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:28,859 because they saw what was going on and 1047 00:45:34,250 --> 00:45:31,800 they and Leon was having them lie to me 1048 00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:34,260 which they're going to testify to okay 1049 00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:38,520 so in 2016 or 17 you began to protect 1050 00:45:42,770 --> 00:45:40,440 yourself by using attorneys and 1051 00:45:46,609 --> 00:45:42,780 protecting your IP is that correct 1052 00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:46,619 yes and was that with uh when did you 1053 00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:54,349 oh that was I think 1054 00:45:58,670 --> 00:45:55,500 um 1055 00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:06,530 uh 1056 00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:18,960 maybe twice okay I'm gonna caution you 1057 00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:21,060 not to dive into Jenny okay privileged 1058 00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,859 yeah good point and council's right I 1059 00:46:28,690 --> 00:46:24,000 don't want to know anything that he said 1060 00:46:34,490 --> 00:46:32,030 he sent I think an email 1061 00:46:37,250 --> 00:46:34,500 okay 1062 00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:39,890 and you've sought donations to fund your 1063 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,480 involvement in the lawsuits yes and 1064 00:46:46,430 --> 00:46:44,160 you've done that in social media right 1065 00:46:47,809 --> 00:46:46,440 yes 1066 00:46:49,730 --> 00:46:47,819 and you've been complaining to the 1067 00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:49,740 community or voicing concerns about 1068 00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:52,079 what's going on and asking for help 1069 00:46:58,190 --> 00:46:54,240 right yes 1070 00:46:59,930 --> 00:46:58,200 and you formed a light Warrior legal 1071 00:47:02,569 --> 00:46:59,940 fund right 1072 00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:02,579 correct and what is Light Warrior legal 1073 00:47:10,250 --> 00:47:07,200 fund it's a fund that if people want to 1074 00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:10,260 donate to my lawsuits 1075 00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:12,839 they can send money to that fund okay 1076 00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:14,880 and are you completely transparent about 1077 00:47:19,069 --> 00:47:17,040 that fund what do you mean about money 1078 00:47:22,550 --> 00:47:19,079 that comes in and money goes out of it 1079 00:47:23,809 --> 00:47:22,560 what do you mean are you do you use a 1080 00:47:25,790 --> 00:47:23,819 hundred percent of it to pay your 1081 00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:25,800 attorney 100 percent okay 1082 00:47:30,829 --> 00:47:28,140 and you keep an accounting or a record 1083 00:47:32,809 --> 00:47:30,839 of those monies our accountants do 1084 00:47:34,250 --> 00:47:32,819 and so those monies don't go towards you 1085 00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:34,260 personally that all goes towards your 1086 00:47:48,109 --> 00:47:45,470 now on you had a letter of intent with 1087 00:47:50,270 --> 00:47:48,119 Leon Kennedy when he came on board 1088 00:47:53,390 --> 00:47:50,280 uh the outline kind of what he's going 1089 00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:53,400 to do for you right I believe so and one 1090 00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:55,740 of those was talent management and legal 1091 00:48:03,349 --> 00:47:58,800 operations right I believe so I I don't 1092 00:48:07,490 --> 00:48:05,630 and have you ever encouraged your social 1093 00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:07,500 media followers to 1094 00:48:12,250 --> 00:48:10,079 make comments on other social media 1095 00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:12,260 pages 1096 00:48:18,589 --> 00:48:15,060 to like help boost another person 1097 00:48:26,050 --> 00:48:18,599 or or disparage either way 1098 00:48:33,230 --> 00:48:30,650 as far as the cyber stalking issue uh 1099 00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,240 in part of his role is being legal 1100 00:48:40,510 --> 00:48:36,000 operations introduced you to 1101 00:48:46,490 --> 00:48:42,970 right 1102 00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,500 I need more information sure did Leon 1103 00:48:50,750 --> 00:48:48,960 Kennedy help you with referring you to 1104 00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:50,760 other attorneys regarding the cyber 1105 00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,680 stalking issues 1106 00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,480 probably that would have fallen under 1107 00:48:58,609 --> 00:48:56,400 his purview I don't remember 1108 00:49:01,849 --> 00:48:58,619 you don't remember if you did it or not 1109 00:49:04,569 --> 00:49:01,859 maybe vaguely I really don't 1110 00:49:09,050 --> 00:49:07,309 and you've always been working with from 1111 00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,060 2018 to now 1112 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:11,280 uh from whenever the moment we hired 1113 00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:12,480 them 1114 00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:14,040 yes 1115 00:49:17,569 --> 00:49:15,420 I haven't been in contact with them 1116 00:49:19,370 --> 00:49:17,579 recently I haven't had a reason to 1117 00:49:21,290 --> 00:49:19,380 okay are they current on their bill have 1118 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,300 they been paid yeah they were paid well 1119 00:49:25,970 --> 00:49:23,760 in advance okay so they're not owed any 1120 00:49:28,490 --> 00:49:25,980 money correct okay 1121 00:49:30,109 --> 00:49:28,500 earlier you mentioned not just the uh 1122 00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:30,119 cyber stalking but you also mentioned 1123 00:49:35,329 --> 00:49:32,460 gang stalking I'd like to know what you 1124 00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:35,339 mean about gang stalking what is that in 1125 00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:37,859 your mind whether on social media or not 1126 00:49:43,010 --> 00:49:40,020 groups of people getting together and 1127 00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:43,020 coordinating to go after one individual 1128 00:50:01,069 --> 00:49:49,130 okay do you believe that my clients have 1129 00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:04,730 no I don't know if that would encompass 1130 00:50:11,170 --> 00:50:10,430 okay 1131 00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:11,180 um 1132 00:50:16,550 --> 00:50:13,680 you were involved with a lawsuit with a 1133 00:50:19,309 --> 00:50:16,560 Jay Widener I am 1134 00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:19,319 okay what's that about which because we 1135 00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:21,420 spoke about all your lawsuits right 1136 00:50:28,910 --> 00:50:24,960 yeah is that which one is that Rico 1137 00:50:31,609 --> 00:50:28,920 okay that's the RICO Gaia correct okay 1138 00:50:31,619 --> 00:50:40,910 um 1139 00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:43,550 you mentioned that Roger Richards was 1140 00:50:49,490 --> 00:50:45,540 destroying your reputation through 1141 00:50:51,710 --> 00:50:49,500 social media correct yes okay and have 1142 00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:51,720 you submitted uh to your attorney all 1143 00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:54,720 the evidence of that as best as you can 1144 00:51:01,370 --> 00:50:58,140 I've everything that we have uh unless 1145 00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,380 there's some newer things that was 1146 00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:03,599 gathered that they haven't given us okay 1147 00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:06,240 but everything as far as documenting the 1148 00:51:11,150 --> 00:51:08,700 destruction of your reputation on social 1149 00:51:12,589 --> 00:51:11,160 media by Roger Richards 1150 00:51:14,450 --> 00:51:12,599 you produce that to your attorney 1151 00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,460 correct I believe so yes 1152 00:51:18,589 --> 00:51:16,559 and same thing for my other two clients 1153 00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,599 any attempts of theirs to destroy your 1154 00:51:22,010 --> 00:51:20,640 reputation on social media you've 1155 00:51:25,490 --> 00:51:22,020 produced that to your attorney as well 1156 00:51:28,010 --> 00:51:25,500 correctly so okay and where did you 1157 00:51:30,589 --> 00:51:28,020 obtain that information about my clients 1158 00:51:31,790 --> 00:51:30,599 uh efforts to destroy your reputation on 1159 00:51:33,770 --> 00:51:31,800 social media 1160 00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,780 directly off of the internet 1161 00:51:37,790 --> 00:51:35,280 and when you say the internet big place 1162 00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:37,800 internet we're on the internet were you 1163 00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:40,680 going to find that evidence YouTube 1164 00:51:46,329 --> 00:51:42,960 Facebook 1165 00:51:55,069 --> 00:51:51,230 such as dimensions of disclosure has 7 1166 00:51:58,730 --> 00:51:55,079 000 people in a Facebook group 1167 00:52:00,530 --> 00:51:58,740 all my fans of course every the 1168 00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,540 dimensions of disclosure was built on my 1169 00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:03,119 email addresses I mean my email groups 1170 00:52:08,329 --> 00:52:05,599 and my Persona 1171 00:52:12,730 --> 00:52:08,339 so they posted the I wasn't finished 1172 00:52:14,930 --> 00:52:12,740 they posted the video of Leon 1173 00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:14,940 saying it was the truth 1174 00:52:20,030 --> 00:52:18,240 in that group 1175 00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:20,040 in the Facebook group in that Facebook 1176 00:52:24,410 --> 00:52:22,140 group and uh 1177 00:52:26,829 --> 00:52:24,420 you know seven thousand of my closest 1178 00:52:30,290 --> 00:52:26,839 fans seeing that information 1179 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:30,300 was definitely a catalyst for what came 1180 00:52:35,569 --> 00:52:31,920 after 1181 00:52:40,730 --> 00:52:37,609 near ruination 1182 00:52:44,210 --> 00:52:40,740 complete ruination and an inability to 1183 00:52:45,470 --> 00:52:44,220 make money within this uh 1184 00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:45,480 uh 1185 00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:46,740 community 1186 00:52:50,450 --> 00:52:48,079 okay 1187 00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,460 a lot of people a while to start like 1188 00:52:54,829 --> 00:52:52,559 figuring out what was going on the whole 1189 00:52:57,530 --> 00:52:54,839 they turned everyone against me they 1190 00:53:02,809 --> 00:52:57,540 made phone calls they had every little 1191 00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,819 group that uh was uh and and we are 1192 00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,040 going to have people testify to this 1193 00:53:08,809 --> 00:53:07,440 uh who who would testify to this uh 1194 00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:08,819 different people in the community that 1195 00:53:14,210 --> 00:53:10,920 have sent us emails saying oh I was at 1196 00:53:15,410 --> 00:53:14,220 this function and I heard oh we have a 1197 00:53:16,490 --> 00:53:15,420 lot of that different types of 1198 00:53:18,109 --> 00:53:16,500 information it may have already been 1199 00:53:19,970 --> 00:53:18,119 produced do you have any names of those 1200 00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:19,980 any of those people no I don't remember 1201 00:53:22,849 --> 00:53:21,180 the names of all the people in the 1202 00:53:24,530 --> 00:53:22,859 community do you ever keep a list 1203 00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:24,540 somewhere the people that you intend to 1204 00:53:29,450 --> 00:53:27,180 call as Witnesses I don't I'm sure my 1205 00:53:32,930 --> 00:53:29,460 attorney does okay so you provided those 1206 00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:32,940 names to your attorney yes and uh yeah 1207 00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:36,660 we I've provided uh names and uh 1208 00:53:40,430 --> 00:53:39,240 screenshots all this kind all those 1209 00:53:42,829 --> 00:53:40,440 types of things I provide to my attorney 1210 00:53:45,650 --> 00:53:42,839 okay so all the names your attorney has 1211 00:53:47,510 --> 00:53:45,660 given us all the screenshots that's all 1212 00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:47,520 of it you don't have any others 1213 00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:51,359 um unless uh I I think so I think I've 1214 00:53:54,650 --> 00:53:52,800 given everything 1215 00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:54,660 to her and I think she's reached out to 1216 00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:57,359 all of these people how how recently was 1217 00:54:00,890 --> 00:53:59,040 the most recent time where you gave an 1218 00:54:03,290 --> 00:54:00,900 additional screenshot your to your 1219 00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:03,300 attorney about evidence of that 1220 00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:05,640 ruination of your social media presence 1221 00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,280 well the last few days probably okay and 1222 00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:10,400 outside the last few days 1223 00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:13,260 how much was the most recent was it a 1224 00:54:17,210 --> 00:54:16,020 week before that or a month before that 1225 00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:17,220 uh 1226 00:54:20,569 --> 00:54:18,720 it's 1227 00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:20,579 hard to tell because I'm constantly 1228 00:54:23,329 --> 00:54:22,020 sending this information in for both 1229 00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:23,339 cases 1230 00:54:27,290 --> 00:54:25,859 so I I couldn't really tell you when you 1231 00:54:29,569 --> 00:54:27,300 say both cases what are you referring to 1232 00:54:32,450 --> 00:54:29,579 Rico okay and you wouldn't say Rico you 1233 00:54:35,630 --> 00:54:32,460 mean the guy the guy a case yeah okay 1234 00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:35,640 Jay Weidner had been has been in contact 1235 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:37,920 with her clients and he's been nice 1236 00:54:44,569 --> 00:54:41,760 enough to make posts about it and uh 1237 00:54:46,809 --> 00:54:44,579 we of course capture that sure 1238 00:54:49,370 --> 00:54:46,819 uh 1239 00:54:51,049 --> 00:54:49,380 how many names do you believe you've 1240 00:54:53,630 --> 00:54:51,059 sent to your attorney for additional 1241 00:54:55,490 --> 00:54:53,640 Witnesses in the last that you've 1242 00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:55,500 discovered in the last month the last 1243 00:54:59,450 --> 00:54:58,079 month oh probably haven't sent new 1244 00:55:02,030 --> 00:54:59,460 Witnesses 1245 00:55:03,530 --> 00:55:02,040 recently have you seen any in the last 1246 00:55:06,109 --> 00:55:03,540 month okay we're getting into 1247 00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:06,119 Communications let's move on okay and 1248 00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:08,160 I'll I'll rephrase the question have you 1249 00:55:13,849 --> 00:55:10,079 discovered any new Witnesses in the last 1250 00:55:17,390 --> 00:55:15,710 as far as any concerns about what my 1251 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:17,400 clients have done 1252 00:55:22,849 --> 00:55:20,160 yes I think it was in the last month 1253 00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:22,859 someone sent us an email 1254 00:55:26,460 --> 00:55:32,329 regarding 1255 00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:34,970 more about the DVDs 1256 00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:37,440 okay ask the question again sure within 1257 00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,079 the last month have you discovered any 1258 00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:42,960 new witness names that would show 1259 00:55:48,170 --> 00:55:44,880 support for your claim that my client 1260 00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:48,180 hurt your reputation no not so no new 1261 00:55:52,130 --> 00:55:49,680 names in the last month I don't believe 1262 00:55:54,170 --> 00:55:52,140 so no okay how about the last three 1263 00:55:56,270 --> 00:55:54,180 months any new names last six in the 1264 00:55:58,609 --> 00:55:56,280 last three months that's been a while 1265 00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:58,619 it's no not in the last three months we 1266 00:56:01,970 --> 00:56:00,000 haven't had new Witnesses come forward 1267 00:56:04,730 --> 00:56:01,980 you more than likely have all the names 1268 00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:04,740 okay how about in the last year have you 1269 00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:16,190 if I I couldn't tell you 1270 00:56:20,410 --> 00:56:18,180 okay but at least in the last six months 1271 00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:20,420 you're saying no new witnesses as far as 1272 00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:24,480 anybody telling you that they witnessed 1273 00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,460 something about hurting your reputation 1274 00:56:32,569 --> 00:56:29,520 right correct yeah see a lot of the 1275 00:56:36,589 --> 00:56:32,579 people stopped talking to me all 1276 00:56:40,190 --> 00:56:36,599 together after the videos came out and 1277 00:56:41,569 --> 00:56:40,200 then people you know started 1278 00:56:43,609 --> 00:56:41,579 uh 1279 00:56:47,930 --> 00:56:43,619 you know approaching me asking me about 1280 00:56:51,730 --> 00:56:49,549 okay and you said earlier there were 1281 00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:51,740 cyber stalking campaigns around 2018 1282 00:56:58,609 --> 00:56:55,920 right those go all the way back to 2015. 1283 00:57:00,170 --> 00:56:58,619 so starting in 2015 all the way until 1284 00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:00,180 what year 1285 00:57:06,170 --> 00:57:04,079 current current and the Jay Weidner is 1286 00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,180 involved in those yes do you believe 1287 00:57:10,910 --> 00:57:08,240 that my clients are involved in those 1288 00:57:14,829 --> 00:57:10,920 and involved in wants in those cyber 1289 00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:14,839 stalking campaigns uh I know for a fact 1290 00:57:21,290 --> 00:57:17,760 and we are looking forward to 1291 00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:21,300 depositions that Roger Richards has been 1292 00:57:28,130 --> 00:57:24,180 passing information through uh Leon 1293 00:57:31,069 --> 00:57:28,140 through Jay Weidner that's been popping 1294 00:57:32,930 --> 00:57:31,079 up in uh the cyberstalkers 1295 00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:32,940 and is that information that's been 1296 00:57:38,930 --> 00:57:36,420 given to Jay Widener uh false 1297 00:57:40,970 --> 00:57:38,940 yeah what do you believe about the 1298 00:57:43,329 --> 00:57:40,980 information that Roger Richards has 1299 00:57:47,630 --> 00:57:43,339 given to Jay Widener what do you believe 1300 00:57:53,690 --> 00:57:50,930 every all of the allegations that Roger 1301 00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:53,700 Richards makes about me are false okay 1302 00:57:57,890 --> 00:57:55,440 what do you believe does allegations to 1303 00:58:00,589 --> 00:57:57,900 be well 1304 00:58:03,109 --> 00:58:00,599 I don't know specifically other than 1305 00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,119 things that have you know popped out 1306 00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:05,520 here and there that I don't I would have 1307 00:58:09,890 --> 00:58:08,280 would have to refer to our notes on but 1308 00:58:11,450 --> 00:58:09,900 do you know any of the allegations that 1309 00:58:12,829 --> 00:58:11,460 Roger Richards has made about you that 1310 00:58:18,410 --> 00:58:12,839 are false 1311 00:58:21,710 --> 00:58:18,420 to to anyone to anyone sure well yeah I 1312 00:58:26,270 --> 00:58:21,720 mean I'm not an alcoholic I'm not a drug 1313 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:26,280 addict I don't uh I'm not a Serial uh 1314 00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:28,730 abuser of women 1315 00:58:31,089 --> 00:58:29,040 [Music] 1316 00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:35,329 what all else my God there's there's all 1317 00:58:42,289 --> 00:58:39,200 it's just a big Feeding Frenzy of uh uh 1318 00:58:44,569 --> 00:58:42,299 backstabbing and gossip anything other 1319 00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,579 than those three alcoholic drug addicts 1320 00:58:49,069 --> 00:58:46,559 serial abuser of women any other 1321 00:58:52,010 --> 00:58:49,079 allegations that Roger Richards has made 1322 00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:52,020 about you or I can't remember right now 1323 00:58:57,470 --> 00:58:53,640 but that's those are the ones that jump 1324 00:59:01,069 --> 00:58:57,480 out okay and also the ones that you know 1325 00:59:03,829 --> 00:59:01,079 he in his uh 18-page extortion letter he 1326 00:59:06,890 --> 00:59:03,839 laid out that and much much more and 1327 00:59:10,010 --> 00:59:06,900 then in his he made the extra extortion 1328 00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:10,020 threat and then Leon and Adrian made 1329 00:59:12,890 --> 00:59:11,280 sure that that threat was carried out 1330 00:59:15,650 --> 00:59:12,900 through those videos 1331 00:59:17,870 --> 00:59:15,660 because they said exactly the stuff that 1332 00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:17,880 he said he was going to tell anyone who 1333 00:59:22,609 --> 00:59:20,880 would listen in his extortion letter he 1334 00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:22,619 being Roger Richard Roger Richards okay 1335 00:59:27,650 --> 00:59:25,200 and you said earlier that you know for a 1336 00:59:31,089 --> 00:59:27,660 fact that Roger Richards passed along 1337 00:59:33,530 --> 00:59:31,099 the information to Jay Widener 1338 00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,540 uh information the assistant in cyber 1339 00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:35,520 stalking how do you know I didn't okay 1340 00:59:41,930 --> 00:59:39,119 he passed information to Jay Weidner 1341 00:59:45,289 --> 00:59:41,940 about the cases the lawsuits 1342 00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:45,299 okay and what was uh what was that 1343 00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:46,799 information that you believe he passed 1344 00:59:51,650 --> 00:59:49,200 along I have to refer back to Jay 1345 00:59:53,390 --> 00:59:51,660 weidner's public comments okay so you're 1346 00:59:55,789 --> 00:59:53,400 saying the public comments where you 1347 00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:55,799 attributed things to Roger Richards I 1348 00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:57,119 just got off the phone with Roger 1349 01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:59,040 Richards and he said blah blah blah blah 1350 01:00:04,010 --> 01:00:01,440 blah blah blah and you produced a copy 1351 01:00:06,109 --> 01:00:04,020 of that into your journey right yeah 1352 01:00:09,410 --> 01:00:06,119 said yes yeah okay 1353 01:00:13,069 --> 01:00:11,690 Council it's 1205 I'm fine and keep on 1354 01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:13,079 going but I'm also fine to take a break 1355 01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,000 that's up to Mr Craig I'm gonna go a 1356 01:00:19,130 --> 01:00:17,040 little bit longer I'm gonna have some 1357 01:00:21,289 --> 01:00:19,140 lunch I guess sure 1358 01:00:23,870 --> 01:00:21,299 um so the allegations alcoholic drug 1359 01:00:25,309 --> 01:00:23,880 addict serial abuser of women let me 1360 01:00:27,710 --> 01:00:25,319 deal with the most sensitive one first 1361 01:00:29,470 --> 01:00:27,720 uh have you ever abused a woman never 1362 01:00:32,750 --> 01:00:29,480 okay 1363 01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:32,760 so never been accused of that other than 1364 01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:35,940 by Roger Richards 1365 01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:43,250 ever been accused of harming a woman in 1366 01:00:48,170 --> 01:00:44,640 any way but anyone other than Roger 1367 01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:48,180 Richards no so he's the only person yeah 1368 01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:52,319 well him and your other clients 1369 01:00:57,710 --> 01:00:55,440 and the drug addict uh what what drugs 1370 01:00:59,809 --> 01:00:57,720 you take per take up albeit on a 1371 01:01:01,430 --> 01:00:59,819 recreational basis uh marijuana okay 1372 01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:01,440 anything else no 1373 01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:04,200 okay so just marijuana on a regular 1374 01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:07,200 basis uh are you consider yourself an 1375 01:01:12,349 --> 01:01:10,559 addict no okay who would you consider an 1376 01:01:13,789 --> 01:01:12,359 addict 1377 01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:13,799 at what point would you consider someone 1378 01:01:17,450 --> 01:01:15,359 to be addicted 1379 01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:17,460 if they can't function without it I 1380 01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:19,920 guess can you function without it yeah 1381 01:01:24,530 --> 01:01:22,559 functioning right now 1382 01:01:27,650 --> 01:01:24,540 did you take it this morning no 1383 01:01:31,549 --> 01:01:27,660 when was the last time you predicted 1384 01:01:33,710 --> 01:01:31,559 I took a uh edible last night to help me 1385 01:01:35,809 --> 01:01:33,720 sleep 1386 01:01:37,609 --> 01:01:35,819 do you believe if 1387 01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:37,619 I'll bring you how long do you believe 1388 01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:39,119 the effects of the edible are with you 1389 01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:43,200 no more than uh like five hours usually 1390 01:01:50,329 --> 01:01:47,280 you wake up and then it's like taking uh 1391 01:01:51,650 --> 01:01:50,339 the other stuff you take melatonin it 1392 01:01:53,450 --> 01:01:51,660 just helps you sleep through about half 1393 01:01:55,250 --> 01:01:53,460 the night and then you wake up how large 1394 01:01:58,730 --> 01:01:55,260 of a dose of an edible did you take last 1395 01:02:01,910 --> 01:02:00,589 and how often do you take that 1396 01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:01,920 uh 1397 01:02:06,589 --> 01:02:04,319 only when I know I need a good night's 1398 01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:08,210 getting to sleep is the problem not 1399 01:02:13,069 --> 01:02:10,880 sleeping okay and you mentioned 1400 01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,079 accusations about alcohol what's your 1401 01:02:19,010 --> 01:02:15,599 relationship with like without fall 1402 01:02:22,849 --> 01:02:19,020 I've drank here and there I haven't had 1403 01:02:25,390 --> 01:02:22,859 a drink probably in three months I had a 1404 01:02:27,650 --> 01:02:25,400 you know margarita with my Mexican food 1405 01:02:30,289 --> 01:02:27,660 at this altitude 1406 01:02:31,250 --> 01:02:30,299 drinking is stupid anyway but I am not a 1407 01:02:32,750 --> 01:02:31,260 drinker 1408 01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:32,760 so for three months you haven't had a 1409 01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,160 drink right now yeah 1410 01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:36,480 was there a time years ago where you 1411 01:02:39,049 --> 01:02:37,920 would consider yourself a more heavy 1412 01:02:40,910 --> 01:02:39,059 drinker 1413 01:02:44,210 --> 01:02:40,920 during times when 1414 01:02:47,630 --> 01:02:44,220 um during all of this what hasn't been 1415 01:02:50,329 --> 01:02:47,640 noted is that I had five very close 1416 01:02:52,910 --> 01:02:50,339 family members died within four years 1417 01:02:54,970 --> 01:02:52,920 and I had a major cyber stalking 1418 01:02:59,329 --> 01:02:54,980 campaign that was affecting my marriage 1419 01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:59,339 there were times to where like if I had 1420 01:03:04,430 --> 01:03:01,440 to fly out somewhere to go to an event 1421 01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:04,440 that I would drink on the plane but I 1422 01:03:09,650 --> 01:03:08,160 didn't drink at home and the only time I 1423 01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:09,660 would drink is what you know when I 1424 01:03:13,370 --> 01:03:11,339 would usually have one drink when I was 1425 01:03:15,829 --> 01:03:13,380 on a plane just to chill me out a little 1426 01:03:18,410 --> 01:03:15,839 bit because I don't like flying but 1427 01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:18,420 during time periods of heavy cyber 1428 01:03:21,470 --> 01:03:20,160 stalking me and stuff I would I would 1429 01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:21,480 consume a little too much on the plane 1430 01:03:26,930 --> 01:03:23,520 but not enough to be a nuisance 1431 01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:26,940 statement one okay 1432 01:03:31,730 --> 01:03:29,040 um like earlier I mentioned that car 1433 01:03:32,930 --> 01:03:31,740 yeah some event do you believe that you 1434 01:03:35,569 --> 01:03:32,940 may have drank a little too much on the 1435 01:03:38,750 --> 01:03:35,579 plane that day on the way to that 1436 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:44,329 do you bro you fell oh 1437 01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:45,890 have you ever on occasion are you 1438 01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:48,240 familiar with brownout where you don't 1439 01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:50,400 remember quite everything 1440 01:03:53,870 --> 01:03:51,599 yeah 1441 01:03:55,849 --> 01:03:53,880 I know what it is have you ever been 1442 01:03:58,730 --> 01:03:55,859 told that you might have browned out 1443 01:04:00,650 --> 01:03:58,740 I don't think so no 1444 01:04:02,510 --> 01:04:00,660 one's ever told you that my wife hasn't 1445 01:04:03,770 --> 01:04:02,520 no and that's the person that would have 1446 01:04:05,870 --> 01:04:03,780 told me and she's known me for 30 years 1447 01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:05,880 true 1448 01:04:09,650 --> 01:04:08,160 take a break lunch 1449 01:04:11,809 --> 01:04:09,660 but do you want to keep going well let's 1450 01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:11,819 go a little bit longer well it's 12 10. 1451 01:04:15,770 --> 01:04:14,400 so I think I'd rather stop and honor my